The Spiritual Ego Trap

[00:00:08] That's what happens, yeah. That happens a lot. Yeah. [00:00:12] Not all that different. [00:00:14] Not all that different. [00:00:15] No. Yeah. And I think around the the things of rejection. For me like fear of abandonment, kind of this imposter syndrome, like massive anxiety coming here. [00:00:28] Really? [00:00:28] Oh yeah. Like right now. [00:00:30] Which is, yeah, I get it. I had the same when I first went to a place like this. Yeah, I'm just recalling it. I was really nervous. [00:00:43] Yeah, just the feeling like yeah, I guess the unworthiness, like I don't have enough to offer one of these kind of. [00:00:49] Oh, that's never true. It's always great when new people come, they always offer a new new angle, new perspective. It's really, honestly. [00:00:58] Isn't it? We often talk about it, if someone new comes, it just brings a whole new freshness, and a whole new angle, or a whole new thing, or even something that people have worked on that you forget because you go into all these other layers and then you go, "Oh yeah, what about this is a real important foundational thing that we can sometimes forget." [00:01:17] Yeah, I think with me, like September's just been, it's like month, now it's October but September was just like everything kind of just like, yeah, changes like point. And now, yeah, it's just this bizarre the synchronicity of it. It's like, "Oh yeah. Talk about." [00:01:36] Starting to see your mum in you, are you? Yeah. [00:01:40] It's yeah. And then. [00:01:43] Basically, yeah, reached 25 and it's like, "Wow, yeah, what was the previous." [00:01:51] You start to see the patterns of your parents come through, doesn't it? Like I said, when the exuberance of the outward expression of the world then starts to settle, you start to see the lumps and bumps start to appear a bit more. [00:02:02] Absolutely. It kind of took a few kind of made like illnesses things to happen for me to kind of like settle you down and make me look inwards. [00:02:15] Yes. [00:02:16] Because even I was saying to my friends recently how the reason I just finished like a degree in counseling, and the whole point. [00:02:22] Oh, wonderful. [00:02:23] That degree, you know, I was just like, "I need to like help all these people around me. I need to like, you know, with my partner at the time, about helping him, saving him." [00:02:34] Mm, yeah, that that, yeah. [00:02:36] Yeah. I forgot myself. And then helping his parents, making sure they're okay and. [00:02:40] So this is the savior character. [00:02:43] Oh yeah, massive. [00:02:45] Yeah. So we call it the Mater Dei Committee, the six main voices, main voices that everyone carries in their head. That's why we're so similar and we're all like a graphic equalizer. So you got six dials in the graphic equalizer, and we're all different tunings of of the same graphic equalizer. So you're high in savior, you're the base on the savior is right up high. [00:03:10] And there's like savior versus the point of I'm a burden, so I'm not the sacrificial lamb. Like I'm going to like save yourself from me. I'll help you. [00:03:25] Be free. [00:03:29] Yeah, savior's a good one too. Yeah. So you can only help people that really want to be helped. [00:03:35] Mm. [00:03:35] Which I also discovered the hard way because when I first started experiencing different consciousness levels, I was like, "Yeah, I'm gonna go save everybody I can. I've got some tools now. I've got I know what's going on. I can see what's going on for people and yeah, let me get out there." And um, it's good that you did a counseling degree. Maybe this makes sense a little bit then, wouldn't be too intimidating on that level, huh? [00:04:09] Oh, it was like, I think you learn, yeah, everything you're saying, I'm like, "Oh I get that. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, theory, theory, theory." But then it's funny, but the physical. [00:04:18] I don't have any, I don't, I don't have any counseling experience. I just know myself. And when I know myself, I know you. Because our inner selves, they're all the same. And I've been through all the suffering, treadmills and roller coasters and I've been through just about everything else, yeah, a tremendous amount of difficulties, self-created. And patterns that are self-given. So I worked out how to get through them and heal them, and that's where I speak from. I don't speak from theory. [00:04:47] That's what I find interesting. It's like, I've always been an external seeker, like more information, more. [00:04:52] Yeah, yeah, good, good, good. [00:04:53] Everything materialistic and clothing and stuff. [00:04:56] Yeah, it's good that you can see that, yeah, yeah. [00:05:00] All the information. [00:05:02] Yes, it's good to get information, and then and then it's really good to see that at some point, you've already got enough information. [00:05:09] Yeah, and then it's just masking, because I'm like, "Oh, I got this information, now give this information, but never actually do the work." [00:05:18] Yes. Well, it's extremely common that um, psych, in psychology, like a lot of psychologists are just wounded, damaged bunnies and then counselors because they've gone into it to heal. But instead of actually going in and healing, they just become information vessels that don't actually absorb it and actually go and do the work. And here it's a little bit different. We go about the work and the information's secondary. [00:05:46] You know what I mean? Just enough information to work out what you need to do, and where you need to go, and that's it. And we don't, we don't get too high on that. We could do, but I've I've seen it in action where people get in rooms where it's highly, highly evolved information, very technical and deep, and it just exactly what you said, it becomes an informational thing, which is of the head. We're trying to get back here. [00:06:12] Right? [00:06:14] Yeah. That realization I had where, yeah, I'll like, you know, read all these books, love it, but then it's like, "Oh, I'll recommend the book to everyone." Like I know, you know, theory of grow meditation, or like all these things, but don't actually practice. [00:06:31] Yeah. So yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're a knower, not a seer. [00:06:39] You see? Seeing's different. Seeing's absorption. And and that happens in silence. And you know, the way I look at it, like let's just forget about counseling, but some of the greatest minds like your Einsteins, your Newtons, your Teslas, and all these super famous, super famous minds. When you look into them a bit closer, they all had, like Einstein used to walk around the university in a beta state, his brain, like I think it's beta, where it's it's much slower, almost like just before sleep, in a very calm state and and epiphanies would come to him. [00:07:22] And then he'd go down and write it down and and incorporate into his knowledge base of his structure of education. And and uh, and then he had the huge IQ to be able to process the information and turn it into something others could understand. You see? So and you see this over and over and over. It's a common thread. So when we're just clogged up with information, we actually block a much bigger mind. [00:08:00] So you're you're dealing with a localized mind, and and and peppering that and enhancing that, but it actually becomes a wall that blocks you out from a much bigger mind. You understand? And that's the one that's really got the juice. You see? And it takes a little while for that to open up, but you you've already got the first point where you're seeing the the amount of information isn't the answer. [00:08:27] Please like or subscribe if you found value. [00:08:31] Meet Rohan via www.rohan.life

• Knower vs. Seer
  A 'knower' accumulates intellectual information about reality, often as a bypass. A 'seer' directly perceives and embodies reality through absorption, which occurs in silence.
• The Spiritual Ego Trap
  A state where the ego-structure co-opts spiritual concepts, using information accumulation to reinforce its own sense of identity and avoid the actual work of deconstruction.
• The Savior Pattern
  An ego-structure that compulsively tries to 'help' or 'fix' others, often as a way to avoid addressing one's own internal suffering or to gain a sense of worth.
• The Mitoté (The Fog)
  The incessant internal noise of the 'committee' in the mind, which manifests as anxiety, worry, and doubt, obscuring the clarity of Direct Presence.
• Ego-Structures
  The collection of conditioned patterns, agreements, and identities (like the 'savior' or the 'victim') that constitute the false sense of a separate self.
• Direct Seeing
  The antidote to being a 'knower.' It is unmediated perception of what is, free from the filters of belief, theory, or past conditioning.
• Deconstruction
  The methodical process of dismantling the ego-structures and false agreements that create suffering. This is the core work of Inner Engineering.
• Information Vessel
  A person who has become a container for spiritual or psychological theories but has not integrated them through direct experience or practice.
• Bigger Mind
  The universal, unconditioned consciousness that is accessible when the 'localized mind' (the personal, information-clogged intellect) becomes quiet.
• Agreements
  The unconscious beliefs and domestications we accepted as truth, which form the foundation of our ego-structures and patterns like unworthiness or imposter syndrome.